It’s Not an Exploit, Learn the Rules

So 45 minutes before my first day at a new job I see this.

Thanks assholes.  A perfect softball for a blog post and I’m on a huge time crunch.

There’s two things I want to talk about, first, and real fast, is the actual mechanic.  As you can find with a quick forum search HERE accel gates THROW your ship through warp, you don’t warp yourself.  This justifies (to CCP at least) letting the warp break your locks and warp disruption whether it’s a single point or an infi-point.  Hans & his evil, dastardly Minmatar were NOT exploiting, this is a game-mechanic that you really owe it to yourself to educate yourself on before entering FW.

What’s really amazing is the number of people upvoting and downvoting the main thread and various comments.  Anyone (Poetic Stan) with the temerity to suggest that it’s not an exploit or a bug and is indeed Working As Intended is subject to MASS downvoting, leading to their comments being hidden, thus perpetuating the misinformation in the first place.  Here the groupthink that could potentially make FWEDDIT so strong is working against them, people who clearly need an education in FW mechanics would rather scream about a highly visible enemy who DOES know the mechanics than improve themselves.

Search around, look for posts on the topic, don’t rely on a single source for all your information.  Look around and see what other people are saying, don’t just assume that because your FC and leadership are saying “IT IS SO” that it really is.  Trust me, I’ve been that guy, we don’t know shit.  I’ve been in the AARs where we go over what went right and what went wrong, we don’t know shit.  I’ve seen the forum posts and comments made by people who should know.  They don’t know shit.  Learn your shit.

And don’t you DARE try to get Hans banned until I’ve pewed him!

I’m using it every time I can

About Corelin

An Eve playing Fool who occasionally writes about the shenanigans he and his minions get up to.

Posted on August 2, 2012, in Meta, PvP, Things You Should Know About. Bookmark the permalink. 6 Comments.

  1. ‘Lol RP’ wording aside on gates aside, it didn’t always work like this. In the past when you spammed ‘warp’ while trying to activate an acceleration gate you got a message saying you can’t activate a gate while in warp. And scrams did in fact stop people from activating the acceleration gates so it’s not that amazing people think it’s a bug.

    And frankly I liked the old mechanic better, despite what some utterly irrelevant lore may claim about how they work. They way it works now *heavily* favours short range high dps setups and I don’t think a plex mechanic should dictate ship fitting doctrine.

  2. Reddit, like any large community, promotes, unintentionally, groupthink. Further, there’s a lot of strong opinions involved based on little to no facts that drives these mass up/downvote trends. It’s awful, but it is a sort of unavoidable counterpoint to the good things in the Reddit community.

    We should all just shake our heads and continue along.

  3. Groupthink tends to lead toward the lowest common denominator, and I don’t think you can get lower than “Us vs. Them”. Which is what this post is really about: “Hans is bad for being with Them, thus whatever bastardly tricks he used to deny us our kills must be equal to cheating”.
    The evelopedia article is clear on how gate are supposed to work anyway:
    “This is an ancient device that rumour says will hurtle those that come too close to faraway places.”

    http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Acceleration_gate

    And I agree wholeheartedly with your advice to search around and not rely on what is being fed to you (and that even works in RL :) ).

  4. “There’s two things I want to talk about, first, and real fast, is the actual mechanic. As you can find with a quick forum search HERE accel gates THROW your ship through warp, you don’t warp yourself. This justifies (to CCP at least) letting the warp break your locks and warp disruption whether it’s a single point or an infi-point”

    Why does this only work when warpsliding and not when sitting on the gate? You’re literally wrong in the first paragraph and you can test this on SISI.

  5. I love that two different bug reports got two very different answers, depending on wording of the report. Clearly, CCP isn’t even sure what the right answer is.

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