Recruiting With Guns

Helicity Boson had a great comment on the TEST newbro story today.

I love newbies, I’ve just adopted one I caught streaming a mining op the other day. I tripled his wallet and am monitoring his inevitable fall from miner to scumbag pirate. Which is totally not going to be my fault.

This is the best kind of recruiting, whether for EvE Online in general, or your own PvP group.  Recruiting is something I am not very good at.  I rarely find people who are interested in joining Fancy Hats through forums, or ads, or even the blog.  I DO find people by shooting at them.  It seems counter-intuitive, but it works rather well.  By pewing someone you force them to react to other players intruding into their game.  They can react in one of several ways, and a clever person learns from their reaction.

  1. Lose their shit publicly.  Funny, entertaining.  Pretty useless.
  2. Be silent.  Smart.  Low risk play.
  3. Engages their aggressor in conversation in an effort to learn more about what happened.

I fucking LOVE #3.  Despite how much of a hard-ass I am here, I love seeing new players attempt to overcome hardship and find a way to get ahead in EvE.  EvE is a hard game, and I’m not going to go out of my way to change a playstyle I’ve invested a lot of time in to making fun and effective for someone who hasn’t put in the time and effort to get better.  I will give credit to people who fight back successfully and to people who get blowed up I will give them considerable help and advice if they communicate intelligently with me.

Eventually Bad Things will happen to each and every single EvE player.  Whether it is a prized ship being destroyed, losing a mint on a market investment, a hauler full of goods being ganked, or being betrayed and stolen from by “trusted” corp-mates, EvE is a game that seems to turn heavily on tragedy.  You can’t really control that other than by limiting your exposure.  You CAN control your reaction.  I am going to go WAY out on a limb and guess that this guy talked to Helicity like a reasonable adult who had merely lost a ship in a game, probably laughed about it and displayed the maturity and intelligence that marks a good EvE player.  Helicity most likely responded to it by encouraging him with advice, isk, and probably an invite to a pub room where he could learn more, and find people to push him even futher down the road to “ebbil piwat!” He might turn into the next Helicity Boson, driving content for THOUSANDS of people in EvE, inspiring mayhem and shenanigans across New Eden.  That wouldn’t have happened without A: the nooblets reaction, and B: Helicity taking interest in the guy.

How do I know that this works?  THIS led to me chatting things up with Th3rm, a couple months later, after hanging around in the Sons of 0din chat room (they are probably recruiting and Rico Minali is a great guy) I joined them, and Cult of War.  This led to me having a BLAST in nullsec, including taking over for a guy named Mukkbarovian when he kept getting primaried off the field, and calling targets for 3 or 4 glorious minutes in a furious (losing) battle in J2-PZ6.  Had I lost my shit about the loss, getting warp scrammed by a Proteus at nearly 35 kilometers and hacked down, there is no way I’d have been invited to join the party later.  I would have denied myself the chance to have a LOT of fun and take place in something amazing.  The fault would have been mine.  I laughed about it with Th3rm, earned money for another ship, and Th3rm recognized my attitude and my eagerness to learn and brought me along, until I finally took the plunge.  THAT is recruiting.  THAT is responding maturely to adversity and giving yourself opportunity.

Fly Dangerous.  Score Kills.  If you get killed, don’t lose your shit.  Learn and have fun, it’s pixels in a game.

I’m using it every time I can


About Corelin

An Eve playing Fool who occasionally writes about the shenanigans he and his minions get up to.

Posted on May 8, 2012, in PvP, Things You Should Know About. Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.

  1. The first time I lost a ship in null, my frig was popped at a gate, and I got podded too quick to even leave a ‘gf’ in local. So I sent the guy a message, saying it wasn’t a gf because it was over way too soon 🙂 It happened to be Wensley, the Rifter Drifter, and I got some good advice from him in return.

  2. ” This led to me having a BLAST in nullsec, including taking over for a guy named Mukkbarovian when he kept getting primaried off the field, and calling targets for 3 or 4 glorious minutes in a furious (losing) battle in J2-PZ6.”

    I fucking ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ Mukk. x 20. to the 100th power. He is the one "big" EVE FC I know of that actually knows how to be a _good leader_, not just "master tactician and combat commander". He should give FC and general leadership classes — he'd make tons [of ISK of course!] for sure.

    • Mukk was fucking fantastic when they were trying to save CoW in Scalding Ass. He is one of the guys who was always sure to get a fleet formed.

  3. First time visiting your blog ; nice read 🙂

    Though I have to point out you cant get scrammed out to 35km by a proteus, 27km is about the maximum you can get.

    • Actually … this is scary, but it _could_ be done – just not in the way we think.

      Proteus with Friction Extension Processor Electronics sub (and the sub skill to V) gives a 50% increase in range. Use Mizuro’s Modified Warp Disruptor – which has a base range of 25km, an overload range bonus of another 20% … and is a 2 POINT disruptor, instead of the standard 1 – and you are most definitely reaching out and shutting off their MWD at craaaaazy range. (

      BTW, Tobias’ Modified Warp Disruptor is even MORE ridiculous – _base_ range of a stupifying 40 klicks, and it’s a 2pt scramble as well In fact, all the officer’s modified disruptors are just crazy, reaching disgusting ranges with 2 points of disruption (essentially making them scramblers). Of course, it’ll set you back a pretty penny, but hey? Out there, supposedly you make teh iskies, right?

      Normally, tho, absolutely correct. Only a point’ll get you there – although some absolutely obnoxious ranges are possible.

    • Don’t forget to figure in fleet boosts, too. Hell the fleet we ran vs Goons the other day my Ares (Inties 4 even) could “reach out and point someone” at like 32km with ganglink point boost — and it was a M4 longpoint.
      Pretty sure you don’t even need an “officer” point to do it, just a good faction one and Fleet Inty (or Proteus) with point-boost ganglinks running, and yer good.

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