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So a couple days ago I said that they would hold a war because people came. My GOD did they ever. I’ll assume that by the time you’ve made it to my blog you’ve heard that CFC managed to whelp some supercaps and an entire cap flotilla in lowsec, and that PL and company played the part of the “Fist of Darwin” in this case. What you may NOT know is how the numbers played out. According to THIS battle report: HERE
Blue team (CFC & friends) had 821. Red Team, consisting of PL, TEST, other HBC members and N3 or whatever I’m supposed to call them brought 1587. That leaves 872 in the middle. Not affiliated with anyone. Also more people than CFC brought. Nowhere NEAR as much firepower as CFC brought of course, but people were so intrigued by the chance to hop into this fight that the kitchen sink probably did include some day old toon flying a velator with the mining laser still strapped on.
This shows a couple things: First, never jump Titans into lowsec, especially 10 jumps or less from Jitamart. No I won’t even pretend I thought of that before this fight but if you want to claim to be a strategic genius you might want to take that kind of geography into consideration. The Titans were nothing but targets and were rapidly moved out or crushed. Hordes of people came in. The node held up somehow, although I bet the language among the DUST folks was rather educational. Second people like to jump on goons. This doesn’t come as much of a surprise, what with the Ice interdiction, sponsoring Hulkageddon, Jitageddon, Jihadswarm, and of course the litany of scams and wars that have made goons into Goons. What was amazing was the gleeful enthusiasm with which everybody, his brother, his niece, her little dog Toto and some kid they ran in to on the way over came with them. This wasn’t everybody, this was ERR-BODY. I was racing down in a shield stabber to… well… KM whore. I got 4 jumps out and Tidi started to kick in, and I was having issues with session changes that nearly cost me a ship. Let me tell you losing a Shield Stabber might not be bad, losing the LG slave pod I was in because of stupid Jump Clone timers while FLYING a shield stabber would have been…. embarrassing.
My alliance, Get Off My Lawn is certainly looking expectantly towards VFK to see which way the wind will blow. I certainly bet HBC + PL, N3 and possibly some other factions are looking to their leadership to see what and how things will change now.
One quote that has come out from this does bear commenting on.
I feel this fight epitomizes the position the Mister Vee (of GSF) and myself advocated few days ago, and thus we feel vindicated now that it was once again clearly demonstrated that you do NOT need to invade anyone, shoot any structures or engage in a soul-destroying 0.0 SOV war in order to kickoff epic fights in EVE. Some people in EVE needed a lesson that big fights almost always happen by accident‚ and the lіkеlyhood for them occurring iѕ exponentially bigger when there ISN’T a space empire at stake. Best fights are those where both sides go “f*** it, bring EVERYTHING” just because they can and have a good brawl.
Someone call Shadoo and remind him that the whole fight started over a tower. That’s what put ships on the field for DBRB to
Bridge loljump his Titan into. Every powderkeg needs a fuse. Unlike Spinal Tap Drummers, spaceships do not spontaneously combust. Battles start over something. For null to have a war both sides need to know a fight is in the mix or there won’t be a fight, just a bunch of disappointed bastards on one side and sleeping/eating/porn watching bastards on the other. This fight happened over a moon, sure it belonged to neither side (that mattered) in this fight, but this wasn’t a fight for the sake of a fight. DnD was stalking a moon, and being stalked by CFC, CFC was stalking DnD and being stalked by PL (and everyone else in EvE apparently) it didn’t happen in a vacuum, it didn’t generate itself. This battle had a beginning, a spark, that lit the fuse that caused the big badda boom.
Fly Dangerous. Score Kills.
So the drums of war are beating. Sort of. In that “What the fuck are you smoking?” sort of manner.
Before I get into this I have a disclaimer: I am pretty much getting the CFC side of things. While I have friends in TEST, they aren’t really the “Core Personality” that people think of when they think of TEST. The forums, major channels, and the public information is what I can base this off of, so I am freely admitting that I might be wildly wrong.
Now I pretty much understand a couple things. First: TEST has a diplo that makes me look like a sophisticated, subtle driver. Thanks for that. Second: FA and TEST are having some serious pre-existing issues that probably need to be dealt with. Third: TEST’s inferiority complex is driving a lot of their “Core Personality” types. More on this in a moment. Fourth: The “Srs bizness” folks are shaking their heads, but playing along for the chance at some seriously awesome fleet battles. Fifth: Nothing will come of this.
I’m not going to talk too much about points one and two. TheMittani.com has more or less exhausted THAT possibility. Point three needs some explanation. I’m not saying TEST is an inferior alliance. They are most assuredly not. They have written themselves into the front page of the EvE Alliance list. They lead one of the biggest Coalitions to grace Null right now, and their leadership have worked damn hard and are rightfully proud of what they have achieved. This doesn’t mean that there isn’t a perception, both inside and outside of TEST, that this success is “tainted” by the assistance rendered to them by Goons. Personally I don’t buy too much stock in that belief, but for people who seek excuses or seek to instigate hostilities, that perception is a HUGE button. Bright red. Labeled “DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON”
Like I said, I don’t regard TEST as an inferior Alliance. I don’t regard HBC as an inferior Coalition. They clearly have enough military might, enough strategic skill, and enough diplomatic skill to thrive in the current EvE Paradigm. Right now there are elements within them that need a fight, and the list of opponents who might fight them is thin. They have an excuse, they have a rallying cry, and they have a button to press that will cause “TEH RAEG” to drive things to a head.
Mittens and PL are both looking at this with a more jaded eye. Were their leaders the kind for pithy comments I’m sure the average comment would be one of “wut?” or “SMH” but their disdain for the ham-handed workings of the TEST “Diplomat” is clear, as is their dislike for the entire war.
Finally this won’t be a war for territory. Alliances will be hurt, and FA will likely suffer out of all proportion to any other alliance’s suffering. TEST might suffer a little. Goons might try different things to keep the war effort “fresh.” PL may or may not be involved. I think they will act to prevent things from getting too serious. Goons don’t want more territory. TEST doesn’t want more territory. PL only cares for moons. The pets are all content, and while many of them want a fight, they don’t want to be blueballed all the time, and as an ideological war this one is a bit of a dud since it’s Pot vs. Kettle.
All and all I wouldn’t mind the war. I doubt it will turn into North Vs. South. This won’t be a war for survival (except maybe for FA.) It won’t be a war of competing ideologies, or styles. It will just be a war if the participants show up and fight. It would be the exact opposite of the old saw “What if they held a war and nobody came.” It would be a war they held just because people came.
Today was a fairly eventful day. I logged in, fiddled with my horrendously unsuccessful market alt for a bit. Looked around and finally bit the bullet. Jump Cloned Corelin down to empire, sold some stuff to keep liquid and bought an Archon BPO. Because I can. I then puttered about for a bit, realizing I don’t have a good place to research it at the moment. One of the corpies misinterpreted my plight to understand that I needed an Archon. He mentioned that he had one he couldn’t fly stuck near a station owned by some reds in NPC null. He’d bought it a while back and just never bothered to skill for it. He needed it, and the ships it was stored with, moved out and pronto. He was willing to pay. With the carrier. I want to make this point clear. I did not ask for the carrier. It was offered to me free and clear, I asked him if he was sure. No I didn’t ask very hard. The Archon was not located in friendly space. In fact it was decidedly unfriendly space so I hopped in Robert Capa, my extremely slippery Loki that was literally built for this sort of expedition, and moved out.
33 jumps later…
I bounce through a few systems filled with baddies. Was kicking myself for not checking the route more thoroughly and I was *REALLY* hoping that the carrier had little things like fuel, some fittings, and that the station had a generous undock. I land on the station and breathe a sigh of relief. FAT undock. Love it. It’d take multiple Mach bumps to get kicked away and I’m not that dumb. I rechecked the jump range, counted the people in station against in system, and realized that I could go straight to a cyno beacon, and that the only person undocked was someone I’d seen stooging around in an Ibis. Whelp. Load everything in the carrier, and I mean everything, Undock, ctrl-space, quick d-scan, right click on the capacitor and JUMP! It even had fuel. Of course the idiot that fit it in the first place had triple trimarked it so lumbering into warp took EVEN LONGER than it normally would. Finally I breathed a sigh of relief as the warp tunnel formed and my ship slid across space into the friendly confines of our local home. Trading back the ships and faction mods from the carrier I enjoyed myself spinning it for a little while.
We have recently imported practically an entire highsec carebear corp. Caldari ships and mining vessels abound for these guys and hardly a turret to be found in their whole arsenal. I spent a little while chatting with them about the “why” of turrets and armor, including such gems as “I’m fairly certain an Armor tanked Nidhoggur could run down a Rokh” and a pretty intelligent discussion of delayed DPS, and the more recent missile nerfs. Fortunately these guys have the right attitude. They know that explosions happen, and are willing to train into what they need to train into. Sadly they have a bit further to go than I’d like but we don’t all start with great armor tanking skills, or T2 turrets sadly. What they do have is not only the capability to generate raw materials, and basic ships, modules and munitions, but a driving NEED to do such things. They were drooling over the opportunities to make money with a completely unconstrained voracity. When the JFs arrived they eagerly tore into getting themselves sorted and making money just to “stake their claim” on space, and see what opportunities they had. Hopefully they can continue their enthusiasm and pick up an equal penchant for blowing up the fruits of others labor. All in all quite a fun and successful day.